Elder Game / Raid gear and how to not make raids mandatory for non raiders

I was thinking about the 1% Raid base that wildstar is aiming for, and how to make non raiders not feel "wimpered" because of prefering content like Elder Game, and i thought, if Raiding is all about grouping why not make a special stat for raiding gear? for example:

"Synergy" : A stat that only raiding gear has. It will be shown as the amount of all the synergy of the whole group . Synergy improves the main "stat" of each class by a certain amount.

This will solve 2 things:

- People that likes doing single player content won't feel like they need raiding to obtain better gear for their objectives since raiding gear will have similar stats than "solo" gear of the same tier but with the extra synergy stat.

- When a raider obtains a new piece of gear not only the raider but the whole group will be empowered.

 

Hit already fills that role in other games. Getting hit capped is beyond trivial for any non raid content, as such all of that stat budget is effectively wasted. For soloing its as effective as pvp gear in that way.

 

Those responses are all from a "WOW" perspective, but what if Elder Game mechanics where harder than the ones a raider has to face? In Wildstar raiding is only 1 of the engame contents.

 

Huh? Forcing PvE players to do raids just to continue doing PvE stuff with better PvE gear?

Sorry. That does not make any sense to me..

 

Not really. Hit as a stat does that in several other games also. Really though, do you want to turn this into yet another thread of "solo'ers are better than raiders and deserve better/same loot!"? There are literally 50 other threads for that.

 

Can we all just get along?

Solo'ers are not better than raiders and raiders are not better than Solo'ers. Each person is different. Each person has a different play style. It would not be fair just to have solo content and not give the raiders their chance to test their skills and play with others. Also, it would not be fair penalizing the solo group for not wanting to do raids.

Carbine is the chief. Combining all these different ingredients in the right amount and giving the game a great flavor will only help and enhance the game.

 

No. The skins I get from doing hard out difficult raids should not be equal to someone who does quests, or even the stats. Thats where GW2 massively goes wrong, gear. I know all the casuals in that game complain about other MMORPG's gear treadmill but theres almost no incentive to run most of the dungeons in the game because the gear is ridiculously easy to get

 

So, Raid gear should be better than PvE gear when in a raid but horrible in PvE and PvE gear should be horrible in a raid but better than raid when in PvE?

Or since raiders raid they are the best people and should get the best gear and everyone else is scum because of their playstyle?

*shakes head sadly*

 

WildStar is a game made for raiders,period,raiders will have the best gear because Carbine designed the game with them at the top of the food-chain,you don't like it,then WS is not the game for you.

 

There is no distinction, raid gear is PvE gear as raiding is group oriented PvE. You're turning this into a class war when it doesn't need to be (raiders vs. non-raiders). Raid gear is tailored to allow the members of the raid to defeat raid bosses. This is usually better gear than outside of raids because raid bosses require more coordination and are generally tougher than mobs anywhere else in the game.

In other MMOs, raid bosses outscale anything you can do in solo content, therefore the raiders need to be properly equipped. This game is proposing content for multiple play styles, but at the same time the appropriate rewards for the content. If the raid content is the toughest pve content in the game, then you can guarantee that it will get the better gear because it deserves it. Does it mean that other gameplay styles are left out in the cold? No. Does it mean they will get equivalent gear to the people doing the hardest content in the game? Of course not. Will they get gear that allows them to play their play style effectively? Absolutely.

 

Thanks to Sword Art Online, now everyone wants to be a Kirito, solo player...

 

I believe war plots are 40man encounters in pvp and I think the gear from that is on the same level as high end raiding gear but ofc one gear is for pvp the other pve..

 

Oh...I have been a solo player since Ultima Online...

I get everyone's point. Raiders work together for the harder content/raiders and should be rewarded.

Its just the attitude some raiders have when it comes to people who enjoy PvE.

"You don't raid...Noob!"

Yea...

 

Solo players have that same attitude, as does many pvpers, and a great many rpers etc.

 

Well, people who do that need to be feed to a Chua..

Topic: Carbine stated it will be for all play styles. Raids and PvP will be there, just like PvE. The game was not just made for raiders..

 

Yeah, unfortunately that's just people on the internet. Do you remember when trolling was actually looked down upon by the majority of the internet? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

On topic: Actually, there's one thing people might be overlooking: Set Bonuses. Why not allow solo content to award its own gear with its own set bonuses that kind of empowers them for solo content a little? Like a set bonus that has a chance to proc a heal. It could provide some interesting set bonus mixtures in raids and soloers actually get the same feeling of getting stronger?