Yeah, staying off-topic a bit, I mean I don't consider myself hard core anymore I suppose (according to many people's definition of hard care that is). I don't have quite as much time to raid as I used to. But being an ex-career raider, I think we are in that group that understands this philosophy. I mean raiding is not just a fun "oh let's do a raid because we don't have anything else to do" kind of thing, it's an objective first and foremost, it's carefully planned, each and every member is there for a purpose and has a specific function and role, and it's not just something that you can toss together (well you can, but most likely there will be some unforseen variable that gives you a massive headache when diving in). But getting back on topic, I really hope that the engineer is not just the type of class you really want to play as ranged, but if you do, you're going to be so gimped that most people opt to not play ranged. I know that the Slinger and Esper are the signature ranged classes, but I think if they made the Engy capable of going full ranged (while not being nerfed as range) I just might choose Engy over Slinger.